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gwennie

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the whole Hannah Nichols story line.

I am not quite sure what I expected, but feel that the current story line with her character is flat, one dimensional and so contrived, when it had the potential to be so much more.

When I heard Hannah was coming back, I imagined wonderful scenes between her and Zach -- finally putting Ethan to rest.  I know we had a post about what we all thought transpired between Zach and Hannah before, but putting that aside, I thought they could help each other answer the questions about their son and come to some kind of resolution for both of them.  I expected long, deep conversations between them.  Zach asking Hannah why she never tried to get in touch with him, why she gave Ethan away and then never went back for him even after she thought ACS was dead and she had become a powerful woman in her own right.  We had bits of Hannah asking Zach about Ethan and why he denied him and what he would have done if he'd known she was pregnant.  Those scenes have been the best scenes between the two characters, and I wanted more of that.  Not to cause them some kind of closeness that might threaten Zendall, but to help heal Zach about his biggest regret in life -- Ethan.  I felt like Hannah could understand him since she had also denied their son, in another form, and that they could forgive each other and themselves over (poor, pathetic) Ethan.

But instead, Hannah is a one-dimensional -- mean, scary, vengeful woman.  I see none of the lonely, scared, bird saving girl Zach described.  Not that I expected her to be the same sweet girl Zach remembered, but I expected her to have some dimensions or depth.  Or should I say, would have liked her to have depth, to make a more interesting story line.  Based on the dialog, there was more connection and soul searching between Zach and Dixie, than Hannah and Zach.   It makes me even prouder of TK to so clearly realize that his brilliant acting skills -- and willingness to fight for his character (as I am sure that a huge chunk of the best Zach dialog has his input) -- keep Zach from being a one-dimensional shady casino owner.  Zach has depth, subtleties and is complex.  You can see the pain in his soul, his loving side, his scary quiet lethal side -- and you can see his conflict down deep and on the surface, when necessary -- you see all of his dimensions, which makes him a complete character.

Hannah Nichols -- while her portrayer has been doing a wonderful job with the acting -- is a one-dimensional cardboard cut-off of a character. Who knows, maybe things will change.  But based on the spoilers -- Hannah continues her one-dimensional act -- portraying Glenn Close moving forward.  I am waiting for her to boil the stuffed bunny Erica gave Spike.  I didn't want her to leave the show without the resolution I was looking for, but if she continues to be only revenge-filled and become psycho-ex -- I will cheer the day she leaves, though sad at the lost potential.

I must also add that I hate this ridiculous fling with Josh and WTF about the ACS shooting!  Did she do it or not?  It was so vague and just left hanging there, although as Cheri would say -- it just got dropped in that huge swimming pool of dropped balls in the AMC basement.

Enjoying the recently added OLTL clips that I didn't saw the first time around --increased my craving for a wonderful story line with multi-dimensional characters and strong conversations laced with depth and subtleties (and showed me that it was possible to do on daytime TV).  BUT...I guess I will have to go on wishing -- and just be grateful that at least one character on AMC meets my wishes and he is the only one I care to watch.

[P.S.  I am typing this while AMC is one. I know Zach and Hannah are on today, but I refuse to watch the show live anymore.  Instead I Tivo it and FF'd through all the non-TK scenes.  Maybe I will be surprised and get lucky enough to see a second dimension of Hannah today.]

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This is pretty much how I feel. Ever since that alert look on Zach's face when Kendall told him that Ethan had a letter from Hannah Nichols, to me the spectre of Hannah has been hanging over Zach. It wasn't a very ominous spectre, just one to mildly speculate about occasionally and wonder if she'd ever show up, whenever her name was mentioned.

But still, no matter how Zach described her, there was no way I could not resent Hannah for the double standard she represented. As long as she gets all the sympathy but Zach got none, as long as Hannah gets a voice to describe her pain, but Zach gets none - screw it. Hannah acknowledging Zach's pain and giving him his due would be the minimum standard any Zach/Hannah storyline would have to meet for me for there to have been anything between them as adults, but of course that is all moot now.

I do agree with TK that it would nice it would be to see another woman with emotional interest in him and I do think a story with Hannah could have had potential, but this one wasn't it. It was too one-sided, and this Hannah is not the person Zach described. Not only that, but Kendall's complete lack of interest in Hannah's presence - while she expends so much energy on keeping Greenlee away from Ryan and Annie - pretty much says it all. The only one on this show who can have more than one woman clustering around him is Ryan.

Besides, everyone from Zach's Cambias past is either dead and/or crazy. I'm adding Hannah to the list. She's probably crazy now, and if she ever comes back, she'll probably be dead. But now that she's leaving, I wonder just where this leaves Zach as far as a story.



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I just said in another thread that I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop
here!  I don't think this s/l went anywhere & I have read that she may have just been hired as Zach's exit s/l if TK didn't re-sign.  Be that as it may, I think they have dropped the ball here big-time as far as using TK/SH in a great story.  I have yet to be very impressed w/what's happened so far.  I'm
a bit tired of Hannah's whining personally.  JMO  As far as today's dialogue,
haven't we already covered all of this in sev. conversations?

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To me this story would have had teeth to it two years ago.  When Ethan was alive and Zach and Kendall were back and forth. 
The story would have been a good one for TK to play.  If Hannah had shown up right after Zach and Kendall married to save Zach's business and get back at Ethan for all he did to them. To watch him struggle between his growing love for Kendall and the family that might have been.  This storyline was dead in the water when she waited over a year after Ethan died and Simone was dead.  Especially after the SS story where both Zach and Kendall offered their life to save the other.

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To me this story would have had teeth to it two years ago.  When Ethan was alive and Zach and Kendall were back and forth. 
The story would have been a good one for TK to play.  If Hannah had shown up right after Zach and Kendall married to save Zach's business and get back at Ethan for all he did to them. To watch him struggle between his growing love for Kendall and the family that might have been.  This storyline was dead in the water when she waited over a year after Ethan died and Simone was dead.  Especially after the SS story where both Zach and Kendall offered their life to save the other.

Now that would have been a GREAT story line!  Hannah on the scene when Ethan was alive and Z/K were in their business marriage.  Or even right after Ethan died -- when Zach was in grief and Kendall was thinking of hooking up with Ryan.

I just watched the Zach parts of today's show -- fabulous. What can I say -- TK can say more with a glance to the side and a swallow of his throat than most actors can say with a thousand words.  Another well acted, but frustrating, interaction.  Once again it was all about Hannah, and her pain.  Nothing about Zach's -- and no questioning of her motives and abandonment.  She always brings the topic up and she always gets the sympathy (well, not my sympathy, but I think the writers assume the rest of the audience's sympathy).  It feels like such a one-sided conversation -- all about what Hannah wants to know, how she never got to know her son...blah, blah, blah. 

Christy -- I also share your concerns. While the Hannah storyline hasn't lived up to any of our expectations -- when she leaves -- what will be the next story line for Zach?  Right now everyone is in the Ryannie and Carey orbit.  I had such high hopes for a strong, juicy Hannah/Zach storyline, but I just can't keep watching this awful character and keep watching her dredge up Zach's pain over Ethan and do nothing to assuage it.  
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